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post Apr 14 2007, 10:42 PM
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Wot on earth did she see in RK that she did not see in DK?


A Million Dollar question YAARMERE....
What indeed she see in him - a much married man while DK was the most eligible bachelor till as late he celebrated his 44th birthday.
This calls for analysis based on their performance together right from 1948 MELA, then 1949 ANDAAZ, JOGAN and BABUL 1950 and DEEDAR 1951, BABUL 1952 where Dilip keeps on losing her. So also in HULCHAL. Much has also to do with AAN 1952.

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I guess we will never know. As they say love is blind. Other than the fact that Rk was married and DK was
bachelor, they were both powerful personalites. DK it seems could not decide who he wanted to be with.
If I am not wrong he had affairs with Kamini Kaushal (married ??), Madhubala etc. Just when people thougt
he would settle down with Waheeda Rehman ( would have been nice couple) he marries Saira??



smile.gif The important point to note regarding DK and Nargis is that DK was paired with her as early as 1948. Maybe Nargis was a strong personality. So there was no chemistry at all. When you look at Kamini Kaushal she seems so pliable, so sweet and willing. The chemistry is evident there. Besides a spate of their pictures and all were hit. Regarding the story why he did not settle down with Waheeda it appears it has something to do with a mother who had her own dreams...... maybe. Regarding Madhubala, Dk truly was in love with her. But as Shakespeare says: The course of true love never doth run smooth. Regarding Vyjantimala, her pairing with DK was truly fabulous until RK's SANGAM came along. And there are so many shady stories there it seems.
But the fate willed that DK marry Saira. And what a lovely couple they made. They both deserved each other. Many film personalities could not even digest the thought. (A friend of mine who was in the Baraat did hear some snide remarks from an eminent film personality). But as they say: KOI JAL GAYA AUR KISI NE DUA' DEE.....May this pair bloom for many many years to come.


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post Apr 16 2007, 06:57 PM
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QUOTE(nasir @ Apr 14 2007, 10:42 PM) *

QUOTE(desai2rn @ Apr 14 2007, 03:54 AM) *

QUOTE(nasir @ Apr 13 2007, 09:35 PM) *

QUOTE(YaarMere @ Apr 12 2007, 06:35 PM) *

Wot on earth did she see in RK that she did not see in DK?


A Million Dollar question YAARMERE....
What indeed she see in him - a much married man while DK was the most eligible bachelor till as late he celebrated his 44th birthday.
This calls for analysis based on their performance together right from 1948 MELA, then 1949 ANDAAZ, JOGAN and BABUL 1950 and DEEDAR 1951, BABUL 1952 where Dilip keeps on losing her. So also in HULCHAL. Much has also to do with AAN 1952.

NASIR.


I guess we will never know. As they say love is blind. Other than the fact that Rk was married and DK was
bachelor, they were both powerful personalites. DK it seems could not decide who he wanted to be with.
If I am not wrong he had affairs with Kamini Kaushal (married ??), Madhubala etc. Just when people thougt
he would settle down with Waheeda Rehman ( would have been nice couple) he marries Saira??



smile.gif The important point to note regarding DK and Nargis is that DK was paired with her as early as 1948. Maybe Nargis was a strong personality. So there was no chemistry at all. When you look at Kamini Kaushal she seems so pliable, so sweet and willing. The chemistry is evident there. Besides a spate of their pictures and all were hit. Regarding the story why he did not settle down with Waheeda it appears it has something to do with a mother who had her own dreams...... maybe. Regarding Madhubala, Dk truly was in love with her. But as Shakespeare says: The course of true love never doth run smooth. Regarding Vyjantimala, her pairing with DK was truly fabulous until RK's SANGAM came along. And there are so many shady stories there it seems.
But the fate willed that DK marry Saira. And what a lovely couple they made. They both deserved each other. Many film personalities could not even digest the thought. (A friend of mine who was in the Baraat did hear some snide remarks from an eminent film personality). But as they say: KOI JAL GAYA AUR KISI NE DUA' DEE.....May this pair bloom for many many years to come.


NASIR.



I was going through some very old Filmfare magazines......happened to read that Nasim bano was very keen on Saira tying the knot with Nawab of Pataudi, this was before Sharmila Tagore came into the scene....
she( Nasim Bano) was initially opposed to Saira marrying Dilip kumar bec of the vast age difference between the 2...22 yrs or so........no matter what,they look good together biggrin.gif



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post Apr 16 2007, 09:31 PM
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QUOTE(Reeth @ Apr 16 2007, 06:57 PM) *

QUOTE(nasir @ Apr 14 2007, 10:42 PM) *

QUOTE(desai2rn @ Apr 14 2007, 03:54 AM) *

QUOTE(nasir @ Apr 13 2007, 09:35 PM) *

QUOTE(YaarMere @ Apr 12 2007, 06:35 PM) *

Wot on earth did she see in RK that she did not see in DK?


A Million Dollar question YAARMERE....
What indeed she see in him - a much married man while DK was the most eligible bachelor till as late he celebrated his 44th birthday.
This calls for analysis based on their performance together right from 1948 MELA, then 1949 ANDAAZ, JOGAN and BABUL 1950 and DEEDAR 1951, BABUL 1952 where Dilip keeps on losing her. So also in HULCHAL. Much has also to do with AAN 1952.

NASIR.


I guess we will never know. As they say love is blind. Other than the fact that Rk was married and DK was
bachelor, they were both powerful personalites. DK it seems could not decide who he wanted to be with.
If I am not wrong he had affairs with Kamini Kaushal (married ??), Madhubala etc. Just when people thougt
he would settle down with Waheeda Rehman ( would have been nice couple) he marries Saira??



smile.gif The important point to note regarding DK and Nargis is that DK was paired with her as early as 1948. Maybe Nargis was a strong personality. So there was no chemistry at all. When you look at Kamini Kaushal she seems so pliable, so sweet and willing. The chemistry is evident there. Besides a spate of their pictures and all were hit. Regarding the story why he did not settle down with Waheeda it appears it has something to do with a mother who had her own dreams...... maybe. Regarding Madhubala, Dk truly was in love with her. But as Shakespeare says: The course of true love never doth run smooth. Regarding Vyjantimala, her pairing with DK was truly fabulous until RK's SANGAM came along. And there are so many shady stories there it seems.
But the fate willed that DK marry Saira. And what a lovely couple they made. They both deserved each other. Many film personalities could not even digest the thought. (A friend of mine who was in the Baraat did hear some snide remarks from an eminent film personality). But as they say: KOI JAL GAYA AUR KISI NE DUA' DEE.....May this pair bloom for many many years to come.


NASIR.



I was going through some very old Filmfare magazines......happened to read that Nasim bano was very keen on Saira tying the knot with Nawab of Pataudi, this was before Sharmila Tagore came into the scene....
she( Nasim Bano) was initially opposed to Saira marrying Dilip kumar bec of the vast age difference between the 2...22 yrs or so........no matter what,they look good together biggrin.gif


Never heard of the Nawab of Pataudi angle, Reeth Though at one time word did go round that Rajendra Kumar was a contender and that hastened Nasim Banu to marry Saira off to Dilip Kumar.

At the time of her LIFETIME ACHIEVEMENT Award, Saira confided to the audience that it was from the age of twelve that she wanted to marry Dilip Kumar. That scene was very poignant with Dilip Kumar literally in tears (SIGH!)

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RK

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Wonder what everyone sees in RK? He’s hideous if you ask me.

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RK

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Wonder what everyone sees in RK? He’s hideous if you ask me.

Noorie


You seem highly Opinionated. !!!!

Raj Kapoor is todate one of the most popular Legend in HF.

A complete film maker if there was ever one in Bollwood.

One of the best Actor/director/producer.






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RK

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Wonder what everyone sees in RK? He’s hideous if you ask me.

Noorie


You seem highly Opinionated. !!!!




So I am ! smile.gif

Wud sumone please teach me how 2 sugar-coat the truth ? I'll be very grateful. tongue1.gif

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RK

NASIR.


Wonder what everyone sees in RK? He’s hideous if you ask me.

Noorie


You seem highly Opinionated. !!!!




So I am ! smile.gif

Wud sumone please teach me how 2 sugar-coat the truth ? I'll be very grateful. tongue1.gif

Noorie


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But there must be some reasons surely for "bitter truth?"

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RK

NASIR.


Wonder what everyone sees in RK? He’s hideous if you ask me.

Noorie


You seem highly Opinionated. !!!!




So I am ! smile.gif

Wud sumone please teach me how 2 sugar-coat the truth ? I'll be very grateful. tongue1.gif

Noorie


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But there must be some reasons surely for "bitter truth?"

Nasir.


Plenty!

Let's say that unlike DK, RK cud never manage 2 look like a gentleman.
Didn't look the part, cudn't play the part either. Not even in his personal life. rolleyes.gif

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QUOTE(noorie @ Apr 18 2007, 03:06 AM) *

QUOTE(nasir @ Apr 17 2007, 10:42 PM) *

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RK

NASIR.


Wonder what everyone sees in RK? He’s hideous if you ask me.

Noorie


You seem highly Opinionated. !!!!




So I am ! smile.gif

Wud sumone please teach me how 2 sugar-coat the truth ? I'll be very grateful. tongue1.gif

Noorie


laugh.gif

But there must be some reasons surely for "bitter truth?"

Nasir.


Plenty!

Let's say that unlike DK, RK cud never manage 2 look like a gentleman.
Didn't look the part, cudn't play the part either. Not even in his personal life. rolleyes.gif

Noorie


Since when did your opinion become truth, bitter or sweet.

I happen to be a fan of both DK and RK so I have no intention of comparing their talents and personalities.

They are both great acotrs in their own rights and that is not even debatable in my opinion.

Prefrence is another matter.

But you seem prejudice towards RK.

I have seen plenty of RK movies and interviews and came across as intelligent, articulate, courteous

and friendly. Their personal lives are thier personal. If you dig enough you will find problems with

most bollywood/hollywood and otherwood personalites and these days it is true for lot of other fields too.








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SURAIYA (June 15, 1929 - January 31, 2004

Suriya was perhaps the last of the Great singing stars...Born in Lahore, she was an only child.She began her acting career by playing bit roles as a child artiste,between the years 1937-1941.Her major film was TajMahal in 1941.....She did playback as a 13 year old for actress Mehtaab in Sharda(1942)
She was launched as a singing star in Bombay talkies Hamaari Baat(1943).She initially started by playing powerful secondary roles in films like Phool, Anmol Ghadi and Dard,..Her singing career found a mentor in music maestro naushad...K.L.Saigal recommended her as heroine for Tadbir in 1945,she co starred with Saigal in Omar Khayyam and Parwana. In 1947 after the partition when Major actresses Noor jehan and Khurshid migrated to Pakistan, more opportunities appeared for Suraiya....

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The Year 1948 - 1949 were the best for her career...She had three major hits Pyar ki Jeet, Badi bahen and Dillagi and she became the highest paid Female Star.At her peak Suriaya generated hysteria among the masses...Her songs were a craze....Her songs like Tere nainon ne chori kiya, Woh paas rahe ya door rahe...Bigdi bananewale, murliwale murli bajaa were hummed in every nook and corner of the country..

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while shooting for the film Vidya Suraiya fell in love with Dev Anand and the two of them did six films together....Afsar,shayar,Do sitare,Jeet,Nili , none of them hits, suraiya had no regrets as their love flourished...But suraiya's grandmother opposed the relationship . Suraiya remained unmarried all her life...Their love story was the stuff legends are made of...


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She made a hit pair with Talat mehmood in movies like Maalik and Waris.... In 1954 she gave her finest dramatic performance in Mirza Ghalib, in the role of a courtesan, the married Ghalib's lover.....her songs in this film are eternal classics...Yeh na thi hamare kismat, Dil e naadan tujhe hua kya hai..

Some of her memorable films
Anmolghadi pyar ki jeet
Waris
Afsar
Sanam
Malik
Mirza Ghalib
Deewana
Mashooqa
Vidya
Shama
Rustom Sohrab
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Suraiya's films startrd flopping in the fifties.....followed some indifferent films, and finally in 1963 after acting in Rustom Soharb with Prithviraj Kapoor she bade farewell to the studios....
She retreated into a world surrounded by her close family..
She died in 2004 ,at the age of 75....
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Suriya's Films and songs continue to thrive on speculations,lore and memories....



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Reeth, thank you for this excellent piece of write-up with great pictures...

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So far I have been able to see Mirza Ghalib with Bharat Bushan.
She was very impressive as was Bharat Bushan as Ghalib.
Great songs by Suraiya, talat, and Rafi saab.


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Reeth, thank you for this excellent piece of write-up with great pictures...

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Most welcome parag...... biggrin.gif



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So far I have been able to see Mirza Ghalib with Bharat Bushan.
She was very impressive as was Bharat Bushan as Ghalib.
Great songs by Suraiya, talat, and Rafi saab.


I have seen a few songs from Mirza Ghalib ......Anmol ghadi is the only film i have seen and to be frank i found her much more charming than Noor Jehan. smile.gif



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Reeth? 1 or 2 pages on Rakhee Gulzar plz coz acting wise, no1 was like her!

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