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post Jan 23 2007, 03:09 PM
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I think 'O Jag ke rakhwale' is purely Mannada's song.. In the fag end he sound like Kishoreda, but he is definately Mannada!! Here is my version (very good sound)..

And here is 'Aa chal ke tujhe' version.. Verey very clear and full version.. Enjoy Eskayes and everyone!!

My memories for this song.. I wanted to record the song 'Yeh jeevan hai' from Piya ka ghar in my own voice. After doing practise, I went to record the song. At the last moment, I realized the sound tracks was not very good. The violin lead was very bright, so I was not too happy to record that song. The recordist asked me my fav song and I told him 'Aa chal ke tujhe' is my fav but I dont have lyrics with me... I somehow tried to remember the lyrics and wrote it on a paper. I recorded the song without any practice. Recordist and I was happy for the recording. But when I came home, I realised that I made mistake in the second stanza.. But the recording was really good.. Its uploaded in 'Sur mein na sahi' section in 'New year wishes by OMkar'... Now I have the beautiful Karaoke track of this song on my cassette.. Once I am thru with other stuff, I would practise well record it again with correct lyrics!!

Enjoy my most fav.. 'Aa chal ke tujhe main le ke chalun'... I also had uploaded the stage performance of this song sung by Kishoreda in Christmas days, I guess.. Its a beautiful version as well.. Dnt miss that as well.. with Different orchetstra.

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post Jan 23 2007, 03:15 PM
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QUOTE(Charulata @ Jan 23 2007, 02:01 PM) *

#77 Aa Chal Ke Tujhe Kahin Leke Chaloon----Solo
1964 music director and lyricist - Kishore Kumar

128-44kbps-time- 4.45 minutes CDQ


Includes all three stanzas.

Charulataji, why did u write 128-44kbps?? I think ur version is exactly lime mine.. Dost log, if u have downloaded Charulataji's version, please dont download mine and waste ur time...

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post Jan 23 2007, 03:40 PM
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OMkar that is 128kbps and 44khz - put briefly as 128/44 kbps. or 128-44kbps.
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post Jan 23 2007, 03:56 PM
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QUOTE(OMkar @ Jan 23 2007, 03:09 PM) *

I think 'O Jag ke rakhwale' is purely Mannada's song.. In the fag end he sound like Kishoreda, but he is definately Mannada!! OMkar



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post Jan 23 2007, 03:59 PM
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QUOTE(GURUFAN @ Jan 23 2007, 03:56 PM) *

QUOTE(OMkar @ Jan 23 2007, 03:09 PM) *

I think 'O Jag ke rakhwale' is purely Mannada's song.. In the fag end he sound like Kishoreda, but he is definately Mannada!! OMkar



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QUOTE(OMkar @ Jan 23 2007, 03:59 PM) *

QUOTE(GURUFAN @ Jan 23 2007, 03:56 PM) *

QUOTE(OMkar @ Jan 23 2007, 03:09 PM) *

I think 'O Jag ke rakhwale' is purely Mannada's song.. In the fag end he sound like Kishoreda, but he is definately Mannada!! OMkar



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Kya hua bhaiyya, is smiley ka kya matlab hai??? biggrin.gif

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Thanks for the info, Charulataji!! smile1.gif

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Yaar mere,

Tum to apun ko ek dum confoose kar dala..!!!..wohiich matlab hai iska..

Us gaane me guru ji hai ya nahi..??????

P.S: Also read the post by SKS where he says VN's book has an entry on this song..




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post Jan 23 2007, 04:24 PM
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QUOTE(GURUFAN @ Jan 23 2007, 04:04 PM) *

QUOTE(OMkar @ Jan 23 2007, 03:59 PM) *

QUOTE(GURUFAN @ Jan 23 2007, 03:56 PM) *

QUOTE(OMkar @ Jan 23 2007, 03:09 PM) *

I think 'O Jag ke rakhwale' is purely Mannada's song.. In the fag end he sound like Kishoreda, but he is definately Mannada!! OMkar



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Kya hua bhaiyya, is smiley ka kya matlab hai??? biggrin.gif

Did I say anything wrong? tell me dost

Thanks for the info, Charulataji!! smile1.gif

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Yaar mere,

Tum to apun ko ek dum confoose kar dala..!!!..wohiich matlab hai iska..

Us gaane me guru ji hai ya nahi..??????

P.S: Also read the post by SKS where he says VN's book has an entry on this song..

No re baba, according to my collection, this song is sung by Manna Dey only.... (I only said that Mannada sounds like Kishore in the end... Little bit in some lines!)

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post Jan 23 2007, 04:56 PM
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QUOTE(OMkar @ Jan 23 2007, 05:24 PM) *

QUOTE(GURUFAN @ Jan 23 2007, 04:04 PM) *

QUOTE(OMkar @ Jan 23 2007, 03:59 PM) *

QUOTE(GURUFAN @ Jan 23 2007, 03:56 PM) *

QUOTE(OMkar @ Jan 23 2007, 03:09 PM) *

I think 'O Jag ke rakhwale' is purely Mannada's song.. In the fag end he sound like Kishoreda, but he is definately Mannada!! OMkar



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Kya hua bhaiyya, is smiley ka kya matlab hai??? biggrin.gif

Did I say anything wrong? tell me dost

Thanks for the info, Charulataji!! smile1.gif

OMkar


Yaar mere,

Tum to apun ko ek dum confoose kar dala..!!!..wohiich matlab hai iska..

Us gaane me guru ji hai ya nahi..??????

P.S: Also read the post by SKS where he says VN's book has an entry on this song..

No re baba, according to my collection, this song is sung by Manna Dey only.... (I only said that Mannada sounds like Kishore in the end... Little bit in some lines!)

OMkar


No guys, i am absolutely sure it is KK's voice in the end...and VN's listing only confirms this...and the book has specifically mentioned as well that though the discs say it as Manna Dey and chorus, it is a Manna Dey-KK duet...so if you go by the listing on records, you wont find KK's name....i would completely trust my instincts on this....and say it is KK- Manna Dey song....

Now why KK's name was not there on records, of course, is a mystery....let me offer you one possible reason for this....

If you listen to the song Michael Hai To Cycle Hai, Michael Jo Nahin Cycle Bhi Nahin from Bewakoof very carefully, you will find that the second stanza main lines (it is a three stanza song) have been sung by Manna Dey, though it is classified as KK-Asha duet on music records....the fact is those lines have been actually sung by Manna Dey...the story behind this is that...the MD/Producer wanted to redo those two lines in the song....and KK was not available at that point in time to do the re-recording of those lines....so those lines were dubbed in Manna Dey's voice...

May be similarly here, KK wanted to redo the end, and he dubbed those lines in his own voice....this luxury was possible because, as i had mentioned earlier as well while discussing KK-Manna Dey Jodi in Jodi thread, the "vocal pitch" of KK and Manna Dey is almost the same...

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post Jan 23 2007, 05:12 PM
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QUOTE(eskayes @ Jan 23 2007, 04:56 PM) *

QUOTE(OMkar @ Jan 23 2007, 05:24 PM) *

QUOTE(GURUFAN @ Jan 23 2007, 04:04 PM) *

QUOTE(OMkar @ Jan 23 2007, 03:59 PM) *

QUOTE(GURUFAN @ Jan 23 2007, 03:56 PM) *

QUOTE(OMkar @ Jan 23 2007, 03:09 PM) *

I think 'O Jag ke rakhwale' is purely Mannada's song.. In the fag end he sound like Kishoreda, but he is definately Mannada!! OMkar



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Kya hua bhaiyya, is smiley ka kya matlab hai??? biggrin.gif

Did I say anything wrong? tell me dost

Thanks for the info, Charulataji!! smile1.gif

OMkar


Yaar mere,

Tum to apun ko ek dum confoose kar dala..!!!..wohiich matlab hai iska..

Us gaane me guru ji hai ya nahi..??????

P.S: Also read the post by SKS where he says VN's book has an entry on this song..

No re baba, according to my collection, this song is sung by Manna Dey only.... (I only said that Mannada sounds like Kishore in the end... Little bit in some lines!)

OMkar


No guys, i am absolutely sure it is KK's voice in the end...and VN's listing only confirms this...and the book has specifically mentioned as well that though the discs say it as Manna Dey and chorus, it is a Manna Dey-KK duet...so if you go by the listing on records, you wont find KK's name....i would completely trust my instincts on this....and say it is KK- Manna Dey song....

Now why KK's name was not there on records, of course, is a mystery....let me offer you one possible reason for this....

If you listen to the song Michael Hai To Cycle Hai, Michael Jo Nahin Cycle Bhi Nahin from Bewakoof very carefully, you will find that the second stanza main lines (it is a three stanza song) have been sung by Manna Dey, though it is classified as KK-Asha duet on music records....the fact is those lines have been actually sung by Manna Dey...the story behind this is that...the MD/Producer wanted to redo those two lines in the song....and KK was not available at that point in time to do the re-recording of those lines....so those lines were dubbed in Manna Dey's voice...

May be similarly here, KK wanted to redo the end, and he dubbed those lines in his own voice....this luxury was possible because, as i had mentioned earlier as well while discussing KK-Manna Dey Jodi in Jodi thread, the "vocal pitch" of KK and Manna Dey is almost the same...

Eskayes, in Michel hai to cycle hai song, Mannada's voice is clearly visible and the Redoing work is also clearly visible. I asked this question to some people in the past, and no one knew about this story u mentioned here. Thanks for the information dude!!

In 'O jag ke rakhwale', at the end 'Kiya sab kuchh tere hawale' sounds very much like kishore... Then 'Hum tujh bin kaun sambhale' line comes twice. In the first time 'BIN' (tujh bin) word resembles exactly like Kishore but remaining voice is NO WAY sound like Kishore.... When he says 'Hum tujh BIN kaun' second time, he DOES NOT sound like Kishore at all... Hear it carefully.. I strongly feel VN's book must have made some mistake while writing about it. (Hope u guys dont feel my opinion offensive)

Guys, In those days the recording facilities were not so good... You can clearly see in Michel hai to cycle hai song... Then how can Kishore had done Redoing work without making so clear visible?? Hope u got my point..

And I totally agree Manna Dey's voice pitch is many times similar to Kishore Kumar... There was a song with me (I dont have it now), it was from Sanjeev Kumar's film.. In that song, Manna Dey sounded exactly like Kishore Kumar in the begining.. When I got the cassette recorded, I found out that he was not Kishore but Manna!!

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QUOTE(eskayes @ Jan 23 2007, 02:05 PM) *

GF, very true about the criminal offence part...we need to caution mujahid also smile.gif , he too has penchant for some of the copywrighted smileys...LOL


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SKS, I would like to assure you I will not be found guilty of any offence henceforth and I will be cautious enough. biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(eskayes @ Jan 23 2007, 07:26 PM) *
No guys, i am absolutely sure it is KK's voice in the end...and VN's listing only confirms this...and the book has specifically mentioned as well that though the discs say it as Manna Dey and chorus, it is a Manna Dey-KK duet...so if you go by the listing on records, you wont find KK's name....i would completely trust my instincts on this....and say it is KK- Manna Dey song....
Absolutely agree with you eskayes, it is possible to make out KK's voice at the far end of the song.

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What on earth does this mean....... biggrin.gif biggrin.gif biggrin.gif biggrin.gif I am sure Walker meant "far end" and it was just a typo. Koi baat nahin "fag end" hi sahi. laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif



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What on earth does this mean....... biggrin.gif biggrin.gif biggrin.gif biggrin.gif I am sure Walker meant "far end" and it was just a typo. Koi baat nahin "fag end" hi sahi. laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif


Azad, just that the 'far end' is the tip of a 'fag'...completely on opposite side to the 'fag end' biggrin.gif biggrin.gif....so a typo could just take you to the other end...:lol :lol....Jaana tha Japan pahunch gaye Cheen samajh gaye na....

I agree with you Azad...infact Omkar, the last part (staying clear of 'far end' and 'fag end' biggrin.gif ) is completely sung by Kishore (and chorus, of course)...i mean the entire slower part starting from Kiya sab kuchh tere hawaale....incidentally, just checked up with Kamal Dhiman's as well....and that too lists it as a KK-Manna Dey duet...

There is one more possibility, which i think is more tenable...the song actually logically finishes when Manna Dey finishes...the latter part is more like reciting (in that sense different from singing) by the actor Kishore rather than singer Kishore...and that's perhaps the reason why he didnot include his name in the credits...

Just that this debate does not become unending, i feel, in the absence of any recorded proof on music discs, let us give 'benefit of doubt' to our ears and keep it the way we all like...i am keeping it as a Kishore duet....else we will have to go to a third umpire...and in this case, only Manna Dey or Amit Kumar could be the third umpire biggrin.gif ...

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QUOTE(eskayes @ Jan 23 2007, 10:02 PM) *

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fag end

What on earth does this mean....... biggrin.gif biggrin.gif biggrin.gif biggrin.gif I am sure Walker meant "far end" and it was just a typo. Koi baat nahin "fag end" hi sahi. laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif


Azad, just that the 'far end' is the tip of a 'fag'...completely on opposite side to the 'fag end' biggrin.gif biggrin.gif....so a typo could just take you to the other end...:lol :lol....Jaana tha Japan pahunch gaye Cheen samajh gaye na....

I agree with you Azad...infact Omkar, the last part (staying clear of 'far end' and 'fag end' biggrin.gif ) is completely sung by Kishore (and chorus, of course)...i mean the entire slower part starting from Kiya sab kuchh tere hawaale....incidentally, just checked up with Kamal Dhiman's as well....and that too lists it as a KK-Manna Dey duet...

There is one more possibility, which i think is more tenable...the song actually logically finishes when Manna Dey finishes...the latter part is more like reciting (in that sense different from singing) by the actor Kishore rather than singer Kishore...and that's perhaps the reason why he didnot include his name in the credits...

Just that this debate does not become unending, i feel, in the absence of any recorded proof on music discs, let us give 'benefit of doubt' to our ears and keep it the way we all like...i am keeping it as a Kishore duet....else we will have to go to a third umpire...and in this case, only Manna Dey or Amit Kumar could be the third umpire biggrin.gif ...

Arey dost, could you please upload ur version?? Let me see if there is any difference?? And yes, I would love to have Amitda as Umpire!! biggrin.gif

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QUOTE(eskayes @ Jan 21 2007, 08:44 PM) *

Here is the updated list of songs of 60s that are still awaiting upload:

Updated as on Jan 21, 2007:

16. Gunfight 1960---- #16 Naina Ye Bade Bade Jiske Peechhe Pade----with S Balbir
20. Mehlon Ke Khwab 1960----#20 Kamala Razia Ya Miss Mary Ya Preetam Kaur-----with Asha, Mahendra Kapoor
57.Naughty Boy 1962------#57 Tum Mere Pehchane Phir Bhi Ho Anjane---with Asha, Om Prakash
69. Baagi Shehzada 1964-----#69 Jhuk Jhuk Bum Bum Kaabad Mukke De Ghooma Ke Bamb Baja Ke---Solo
70. Baagi Shehzada 1964-----#70 Ye Nazarana Mohabbat Ka Dil Se Dil Jod Ke Dekho---with Kamal Barot



Sorry guys,

i suggest we must move ahead..Should not get stuck with a discussion.

SKS,

You need to add song 78 to this list and move ahead.

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What on earth does this mean....... biggrin.gif biggrin.gif biggrin.gif biggrin.gif I am sure Walker meant "far end" and it was just a typo. Koi baat nahin "fag end" hi sahi. laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif


Azad, just that the 'far end' is the tip of a 'fag'...completely on opposite side to the 'fag end' biggrin.gif biggrin.gif....so a typo could just take you to the other end...:lol :lol....Jaana tha Japan pahunch gaye Cheen samajh gaye na....



No typo re;

‘Fag End’
Noun
- The frayed end of a length of cloth or rope
- The time of the last part of something

I think I hv the song # 70; dekhna padega...
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